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Changeling Rogue Build
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Tetsubo
2005-12-26 12:59:45 UTC
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Just for fun I did up a Changeling Rogue build with the racial
substitution levels. Any suggestions for an 18th level Feat?

Name: Shunnar

Race: Changeling Gender: N/A Class: Rogue Level: 1st Alignment: Neutral Good

Str: 10 (2 points) +0
Dex: 16 (10 points) +3
Con: 10 (2 points) +0
Int: 16 (10 points) +3
Wis: 10 (2 points) +0
Cha: 10 (2 points) +0
28 Point Buy

Base Speed: 30
Languages: Common, Dwarven, Elven and Giant

HP: 6
Initiative: +3 +3 DX Bonus)
BAB: +0
BAB Melee: +0
BAB Missile: +3 (+3 DX Bonus)
Saves: Fort+0, Ref +5 (+3 DX Bonus) and Will +0
Armour Class: 16 (+3 Studded Leather, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP)
XP:

Skills: 1st level points: (10 + 3 (+3 IN Bonus)) x4 = 52
Each following Changeling Rogue level: 10 + 3 (+3 IN Bonus) Bonus) = 13
Each following standard Rogue level: 8 + 3 (+3 IN Bonus) = 11

Class Skills:

Appraise (Int) +3 (+3 IN Bonus)
Balance (Dex, ACP) +3 (1 Rank, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 1
Bluff (Cha) +6 (4 Ranks, +2 Racial) 4
Climb (Str, Armor Check Penalty) –1 (-1 ACP)
Craft (Int)
Decipher Script (Int, Trained Only) +4 (1 Rank, +3 IN Bonus) 1
Diplomacy (Cha) +4 (4 Ranks) 4
Disable Device (Int, Trained Only) +4 (1 Ranks, +3 IN Bonus) 1
Disguise (Cha) +4/+14 (4 Ranks, +10 w/ Minor Change) 4
Escape Artist (Dex, ACP) +3 (1 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 1
Forgery (Int) +3 (+3 IN Bonus)
Gather Information (Cha) +4 (4 Ranks) 4
Hide (Dex, Armor Check Penalty) +4 (1 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus) 1
Intimidate (Cha) +6 (4 Ranks, +2 Racial) 4
Jump (Str, ACP) +3 (4 Ranks, -1 ACP) 4
Knowledge (local) (Int) +4 (1 Rank, +3 IN Bonus) 1
Listen (Wis) +2 (2 Ranks) 2
Move Silently (Dex, ACP) +4 (2 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 2
Open Lock (Dex, Trained Only) +5 (2 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus) 2
Perform (Cha)
Profession (Wis)
Search (Int) +3 (+3 IN Bonus)
Sense Motive (Wis) +6 (4 Ranks, +2 Racial) 4
Sleight of Hand (Dex, Trained Only, ACP) +3 (1 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 1
Speak Language (Orc) 1
Speak Language (Gnome) 1
Speak Language (Halfling) 1
Spot (Wis) +2 (4 Ranks) 2
Swim (Str, ACP) –1 (-1 ACP)
Tumble (Dex, Trained Only, ACP) +6 (4 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 4
Use Magic Device (Cha, Trained Only) +2 (2 Ranks) 2
Use Rope (Dex) +3 (+3 DX Bonus)

Cross-class Skills:

Knowledge (Arcana) (IN) +4 (1 Rank, +3 IN Bonus) 2
Ride (Dex) +3 (+3 DX Bonus)

Feats: 1st level
Two-Weapon Fighting
Weapon Finesse (Short Sword)


Equipment:

Studded Leather Armour (+3 AC, +5 Max. DX, -1 ACP)
2 Daggers (1d4 19-20/×2, RI 10 ft., Piercing or Slashing)
2 Clubs (1d6 ×2, RI 10 ft., Bludgeoning)
2 Short Swords (1d6 19-20/×2, Piercing)
1 Shortbow (1d6 ×3, RI 60 ft., Piercing)
Backpack
Bed Roll
Mess Kit
Waterskin
Cloak (reversible)
Wool Cap (reversible)
High Soft Boots
Sandals
Two changes of clothes (reversible)
Flint & Steel
Rations (week)
Grooming Kit
Thieves’ Tools
Belt Pouch (15 gp)

Description:



Personal History:



Goals:



Build Plan:

1st Level: Changeling Racial Rogue Level: Feats (Two-Weapon Fighting,
Weapon
Finesse (Short Sword)), Sneak Attack +1d6, Social Intuition

2nd Level: Evasion

3rd Level: Changeling Racial Rogue Level: Feat (Two-Weapon Defense),
Minor Lore,
Sneak Attack +2d6

4th Level: +1 DX, Uncanny dodge

5th Level: Sneak Attack +3d6

6th Level: Feat (Weapon Focus: Short Sword)

7th Level: Sneak Attack +4d6

8th Level: Changeling Racial Rogue Level: Mutable Anatomy, +1 DX

9th Level: Feat (Improved Two-Weapon Fighting), Sneak Attack +5d6

10th Level: Special Ability: Improved Evasion (Ex)

11th Level: Sneak Attack +6d6

12th Level: Feat (Improved Critical: Short Sword), +1 DX

13th Level: Special Ability: Crippling Strike (Ex), Sneak Attack +7d6

14th Level: N/A

15th Level: Feat (Greater Two-Weapon Fighting), Sneak Attack +8d6

16th Level: Special Ability: Opportunist (Ex), +1 DX

17th Level: Sneak Attack +9d6

18th Level: Feat ()

19th Level: Special Ability: Slippery Mind (Ex), Sneak Attack +10d6

20th Level: +1 DX
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Mark Blunden
2005-12-26 14:24:16 UTC
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Post by Tetsubo
Just for fun I did up a Changeling Rogue build with the racial
substitution levels. Any suggestions for an 18th level Feat?
Name: Shunnar
Not a criticism, just a design note: Most changelings use names of a single
syllable. However, it's not a universal rule.
Post by Tetsubo
1st Level: Changeling Racial Rogue Level: Feats (Two-Weapon Fighting,
Weapon
Finesse (Short Sword)), Sneak Attack +1d6, Social Intuition
How are you getting two 1st-level feats as a changeling rogue? Also,
assuming this is 3.5, you don't need to specify a weapon for Weapon Finesse.

As for an 18th-level feat, you might want to consider some of the Changeling
feats from Races of Eberron. Persona Immersion, Quick Change and Racial
Emulation are all useful to a changeling who's trying to make the most of
his racial disguise ability. You could consider bumping your progression in
other feats up a bit in order to take one of them at lower level.
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Mark.
Tetsubo
2005-12-26 16:24:36 UTC
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Post by Mark Blunden
Post by Tetsubo
Just for fun I did up a Changeling Rogue build with the racial
substitution levels. Any suggestions for an 18th level Feat?
Name: Shunnar
Not a criticism, just a design note: Most changelings use names of a single
syllable. However, it's not a universal rule.
What can I say? I flaunt the conventional... :)
Post by Mark Blunden
Post by Tetsubo
1st Level: Changeling Racial Rogue Level: Feats (Two-Weapon Fighting,
Weapon
Finesse (Short Sword)), Sneak Attack +1d6, Social Intuition
How are you getting two 1st-level feats as a changeling rogue? Also,
assuming this is 3.5, you don't need to specify a weapon for Weapon Finesse.
As for an 18th-level feat, you might want to consider some of the Changeling
feats from Races of Eberron. Persona Immersion, Quick Change and Racial
Emulation are all useful to a changeling who's trying to make the most of
his racial disguise ability. You could consider bumping your progression in
other feats up a bit in order to take one of them at lower level.
Because I forgot to put in the Shaky Flaw I had meant to add... too
darn early in the morning...
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Tetsubo
My page: http://home.comcast.net/~tetsubo/
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Werebat
2005-12-26 17:22:49 UTC
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Why does he have 2 feats at 1st level?
Post by Tetsubo
Just for fun I did up a Changeling Rogue build with the racial
substitution levels. Any suggestions for an 18th level Feat?
Name: Shunnar
Race: Changeling Gender: N/A Class: Rogue Level: 1st Alignment: Neutral Good
Str: 10 (2 points) +0
Dex: 16 (10 points) +3
Con: 10 (2 points) +0
Int: 16 (10 points) +3
Wis: 10 (2 points) +0
Cha: 10 (2 points) +0
28 Point Buy
Base Speed: 30
Languages: Common, Dwarven, Elven and Giant
HP: 6
Initiative: +3 +3 DX Bonus)
BAB: +0
BAB Melee: +0
BAB Missile: +3 (+3 DX Bonus)
Saves: Fort+0, Ref +5 (+3 DX Bonus) and Will +0
Armour Class: 16 (+3 Studded Leather, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP)
Skills: 1st level points: (10 + 3 (+3 IN Bonus)) x4 = 52
Each following Changeling Rogue level: 10 + 3 (+3 IN Bonus) Bonus) = 13
Each following standard Rogue level: 8 + 3 (+3 IN Bonus) = 11
Appraise (Int) +3 (+3 IN Bonus)
Balance (Dex, ACP) +3 (1 Rank, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 1
Bluff (Cha) +6 (4 Ranks, +2 Racial) 4
Climb (Str, Armor Check Penalty) –1 (-1 ACP)
Craft (Int)
Decipher Script (Int, Trained Only) +4 (1 Rank, +3 IN Bonus) 1
Diplomacy (Cha) +4 (4 Ranks) 4
Disable Device (Int, Trained Only) +4 (1 Ranks, +3 IN Bonus) 1
Disguise (Cha) +4/+14 (4 Ranks, +10 w/ Minor Change) 4
Escape Artist (Dex, ACP) +3 (1 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 1
Forgery (Int) +3 (+3 IN Bonus)
Gather Information (Cha) +4 (4 Ranks) 4
Hide (Dex, Armor Check Penalty) +4 (1 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus) 1
Intimidate (Cha) +6 (4 Ranks, +2 Racial) 4
Jump (Str, ACP) +3 (4 Ranks, -1 ACP) 4
Knowledge (local) (Int) +4 (1 Rank, +3 IN Bonus) 1
Listen (Wis) +2 (2 Ranks) 2
Move Silently (Dex, ACP) +4 (2 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 2
Open Lock (Dex, Trained Only) +5 (2 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus) 2
Perform (Cha)
Profession (Wis)
Search (Int) +3 (+3 IN Bonus)
Sense Motive (Wis) +6 (4 Ranks, +2 Racial) 4
Sleight of Hand (Dex, Trained Only, ACP) +3 (1 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 1
Speak Language (Orc) 1
Speak Language (Gnome) 1
Speak Language (Halfling) 1
Spot (Wis) +2 (4 Ranks) 2
Swim (Str, ACP) –1 (-1 ACP)
Tumble (Dex, Trained Only, ACP) +6 (4 Ranks, +3 DX Bonus, -1 ACP) 4
Use Magic Device (Cha, Trained Only) +2 (2 Ranks) 2
Use Rope (Dex) +3 (+3 DX Bonus)
Knowledge (Arcana) (IN) +4 (1 Rank, +3 IN Bonus) 2
Ride (Dex) +3 (+3 DX Bonus)
Feats: 1st level
Two-Weapon Fighting
Weapon Finesse (Short Sword)
Studded Leather Armour (+3 AC, +5 Max. DX, -1 ACP)
2 Daggers (1d4 19-20/×2, RI 10 ft., Piercing or Slashing)
2 Clubs (1d6 ×2, RI 10 ft., Bludgeoning)
2 Short Swords (1d6 19-20/×2, Piercing)
1 Shortbow (1d6 ×3, RI 60 ft., Piercing)
Backpack
Bed Roll
Mess Kit
Waterskin
Cloak (reversible)
Wool Cap (reversible)
High Soft Boots
Sandals
Two changes of clothes (reversible)
Flint & Steel
Rations (week)
Grooming Kit
Thieves’ Tools
Belt Pouch (15 gp)
1st Level: Changeling Racial Rogue Level: Feats (Two-Weapon Fighting,
Weapon
Finesse (Short Sword)), Sneak Attack +1d6, Social Intuition
2nd Level: Evasion
3rd Level: Changeling Racial Rogue Level: Feat (Two-Weapon Defense),
Minor Lore,
Sneak Attack +2d6
4th Level: +1 DX, Uncanny dodge
5th Level: Sneak Attack +3d6
6th Level: Feat (Weapon Focus: Short Sword)
7th Level: Sneak Attack +4d6
8th Level: Changeling Racial Rogue Level: Mutable Anatomy, +1 DX
9th Level: Feat (Improved Two-Weapon Fighting), Sneak Attack +5d6
10th Level: Special Ability: Improved Evasion (Ex)
11th Level: Sneak Attack +6d6
12th Level: Feat (Improved Critical: Short Sword), +1 DX
13th Level: Special Ability: Crippling Strike (Ex), Sneak Attack +7d6
14th Level: N/A
15th Level: Feat (Greater Two-Weapon Fighting), Sneak Attack +8d6
16th Level: Special Ability: Opportunist (Ex), +1 DX
17th Level: Sneak Attack +9d6
18th Level: Feat ()
19th Level: Special Ability: Slippery Mind (Ex), Sneak Attack +10d6
20th Level: +1 DX
Tetsubo
2005-12-26 18:27:44 UTC
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Post by Werebat
Why does he have 2 feats at 1st level?
Because I forgot to put in the Shaky Flaw I had meant to add... too
darn early in the morning...
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Tetsubo
My page: http://home.comcast.net/~tetsubo/
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If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-- Anatole France

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