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Fresh Phantasmal Force Ideas?
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Praxiteles
2015-07-08 06:17:36 UTC
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Illusion that they are embedded and stuck in a column of ice (1d6 dmg)
Mirror Image for the Party - stabbing them (1d6 psychic dmg)
Trapped in a cage with spikes on the ground (1d6 psychic dmg)

5e ideas
Justisaur
2015-07-08 15:40:16 UTC
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Post by Praxiteles
Illusion that they are embedded and stuck in a column of ice (1d6 dmg)
Mirror Image for the Party - stabbing them (1d6 psychic dmg)
Trapped in a cage with spikes on the ground (1d6 psychic dmg)
5e ideas
I love it when people reply to 20 year old topics.

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Joanna Rowland Stuart
2015-07-09 13:01:00 UTC
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Post by Justisaur
I love it when people reply to 20 year old topics.
Necroposters?

Cheers
JOanna
Ubiquitous
2015-07-09 13:32:18 UTC
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I love it when people reply to 20 year old topics.
Necroposters?
I heard the term "necromancer" tossed around once.

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Ubiquitous
2015-07-09 13:31:32 UTC
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Post by Praxiteles
Illusion that they are embedded and stuck in a column of ice (1d6 dmg)
Mirror Image for the Party - stabbing them (1d6 psychic dmg)
Trapped in a cage with spikes on the ground (1d6 psychic dmg)
5e ideas
I love it when people reply to 20 year old topics.
I wondered about that but the "pyschic dmg" threw me.

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Spalls Hurgenson
2015-07-09 17:14:50 UTC
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I wondered about that but the "pyschic dmg" threw me.
A telepathically-delivered Dungeon Master's Guide?
Joanna Rowland Stuart
2015-07-09 18:01:00 UTC
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I wondered about that but the "pyschic dmg" threw me.
Throwing a crystal ball might translate psychic damage into physical
damage ;-)

I'll get my coat...

Cheers
JOanna
Peter Casurella
2020-10-22 20:02:38 UTC
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I'm looking for some "new" ideas for illusions. Specifically for
Phantasmal Force. I'm tired of the collasping walls and fireballs. Does
anyone have some unique or strange ideas for this spell?
Thanks!
Kevin
My favorite go-to for phantasmal force is:

The target believes that a thick leather bag has been suddenly pulled over their head. The bag has a wire drawstring that is pulled tight around their neck like a garotte, and is cutting into them.

The upshot is that the target is blinded AND takes the 1d6 damage every turn.
Hamish Laws
2020-10-23 03:54:36 UTC
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Post by Peter Casurella
I'm looking for some "new" ideas for illusions. Specifically for
Phantasmal Force. I'm tired of the collasping walls and fireballs. Does
anyone have some unique or strange ideas for this spell?
Thanks!
Kevin
The target believes that a thick leather bag has been suddenly pulled over their head. The bag has a wire drawstring that is pulled tight around their neck like a garotte, and is cutting into them.
The upshot is that the target is blinded AND takes the 1d6 damage every turn.
Is 24 years a new record for the group?
JimP
2020-10-23 14:02:13 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 20:54:36 -0700 (PDT), Hamish Laws
Post by Hamish Laws
Post by Peter Casurella
I'm looking for some "new" ideas for illusions. Specifically for
Phantasmal Force. I'm tired of the collasping walls and fireballs. Does
anyone have some unique or strange ideas for this spell?
Thanks!
Kevin
The target believes that a thick leather bag has been suddenly pulled over their head. The bag has a wire drawstring that is pulled tight around their neck like a garotte, and is cutting into them.
The upshot is that the target is blinded AND takes the 1d6 damage every turn.
Is 24 years a new record for the group?
Could be.
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2020-10-30 20:02:03 UTC
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Post by Peter Casurella
I'm looking for some "new" ideas for illusions. Specifically for
Phantasmal Force. I'm tired of the collasping walls and fireballs. Does
anyone have some unique or strange ideas for this spell?
Thanks!
Kevin
The target believes that a thick leather bag has been suddenly pulled over their head. The bag has a wire drawstring that is pulled tight around their neck like a garotte, and is cutting into them.
The upshot is that the target is blinded AND takes the 1d6 damage every turn.
I'm glad this thread got a bump . I want to write up a dungeon to show how really deadly illusionists can be. A friend of mine was working with me on an illusionist's version of "Guards and Wards." I think it makes sense, since that spell has a lot of illusionist spells as parts of it. One idea I had for Phantasmal Forces is to create an image of a ghost. The part that has me stuck is that the illusionist would have to have seen an actual ghost to create the image.
Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)
2020-10-31 15:59:59 UTC
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Post by Peter Casurella
I'm looking for some "new" ideas for illusions. Specifically for
Phantasmal Force. I'm tired of the collasping walls and fireballs. Does
anyone have some unique or strange ideas for this spell?
Thanks!
Kevin
The target believes that a thick leather bag has been suddenly pulled over their head. The bag has a wire drawstring that is pulled tight around their neck like a garotte, and is cutting into them.
The upshot is that the target is blinded AND takes the 1d6 damage every turn.
I'm glad this thread got a bump . I want to write up a dungeon to show how really deadly illusionists can be. A friend of mine was working with me on an illusionist's version of "Guards and Wards." I think it makes sense, since that spell has a lot of illusionist spells as parts of it. One idea I had for Phantasmal Forces is to create an image of a ghost. The part that has me stuck is that the illusionist would have to have seen an actual ghost to create the image.
No, he just has to have a good idea of what his target THINKS a ghost is.
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Justisaur
2020-12-23 16:02:37 UTC
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Post by ***@gmail.com
Post by Peter Casurella
I'm looking for some "new" ideas for illusions. Specifically for
Phantasmal Force. I'm tired of the collasping walls and fireballs. Does
anyone have some unique or strange ideas for this spell?
Thanks!
Kevin
The target believes that a thick leather bag has been suddenly pulled over their
head. The bag has a wire drawstring that is pulled tight around their neck like
a garotte, and is cutting into them.
The upshot is that the target is blinded AND takes the 1d6 damage every turn.
I'm glad this thread got a bump . I want to write up a dungeon to show how
really deadly illusionists can be. A friend of mine was working with me on an
illusionist's version of "Guards and Wards." I think it makes sense, since that
spell has a lot of illusionist spells as parts of it. One idea I had for Phantasmal
Forces is to create an image of a ghost. The part that has me stuck is that the
illusionist would have to have seen an actual ghost to create the image.
A lot of this depends on edition, and a lot on DM interpretation, which makes
illusions hard to deal with both as a DM and a player. A lot of TSR dungeons have
illusions that break TSRs own rules. As a consequence players may feel they're
unfair.

Even 5e it's not clear what you can and can't do with the minor illusion cantrip.
Illusions have never been clear and I think most DMs prefer to avoid them
for that reason.

I used to love them when I was young, but the way they've never been pinned
down irritates me now.

I think the more specific illusions from 1e work fine, shadow monsters, shadow
magic, invisibility, mirror image, blur, ventriloquism, magic mouth, darkness,
phantasmal killer, change self, maze. but the more free-form ones don't. I'd rather invent
specific instances and make them spells, something like illusionary wall,
illusionary pit, etc. The monsters and magic already have spells, but could use
lower level versions. Perhaps allow a more freeform illusion that can't actually
affect anything, just perhaps illustrate or scare - or make it part of the fear spell.
Adam H Kerman
2020-12-23 01:13:27 UTC
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Post by Peter Casurella
I'm looking for some "new" ideas for illusions. Specifically for
Phantasmal Force. I'm tired of the collasping walls and fireballs. Does
anyone have some unique or strange ideas for this spell?
Thanks!
Kevin
The target believes that a thick leather bag has been suddenly pulled over
their head. The bag has a wire drawstring that is pulled tight around their
neck like a garotte, and is cutting into them.
Post by Peter Casurella
The upshot is that the target is blinded AND takes the 1d6 damage every turn.
r u retarded?
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