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Comprehend language and druidic
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Juza
2006-07-13 09:49:12 UTC
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Hi to all,

I just wanted to know if with a comprehend language someone can understand
druidic.

Can druidic be said to be as a secret code (it is said to have a own
alphabet)?

Ciao
Juza
Willie
2006-07-13 10:50:44 UTC
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Post by Juza
Hi to all,
I just wanted to know if with a comprehend language someone can understand
druidic.
Can druidic be said to be as a secret code (it is said to have a own
alphabet)?
I treat the Druidic language much as I do the magic language. You have to
KNOW
how to read and speak it by getting training by a druid. This way the only
way to
know it is to either be a druid, or have one teach it. And if one teaches a
non-druid
the language, it spells out BIG trouble to him/her. If you were a Druid,
then lost that
class, I would rule that you would be able to still speak it. Writing it
would follow
the same rules.
Juza
2006-07-13 12:05:40 UTC
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Post by Willie
I treat the Druidic language much as I do the magic language. You have to
KNOW
how to read and speak it by getting training by a druid. This way the only
way to
know it is to either be a druid, or have one teach it. And if one teaches a
non-druid
the language, it spells out BIG trouble to him/her. If you were a Druid,
then lost that
class, I would rule that you would be able to still speak it. Writing it
would follow
the same rules.
Ok. I know that, but you didn't answer my question. Can someone with
comprehend language casted on him understand druidic?

Ciao
Juza
Mark Blunden
2006-07-13 12:47:39 UTC
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Post by Juza
Post by Willie
I treat the Druidic language much as I do the magic language. You
have to KNOW
how to read and speak it by getting training by a druid. This way
the only way to
know it is to either be a druid, or have one teach it. And if one
teaches a non-druid
the language, it spells out BIG trouble to him/her. If you were a
Druid, then lost that
class, I would rule that you would be able to still speak it.
Writing it would follow
the same rules.
Ok. I know that, but you didn't answer my question. Can someone with
comprehend language casted on him understand druidic?
If he touches a druid, sure.
--
Mark.
Werebat
2006-07-13 14:28:44 UTC
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Post by Mark Blunden
Post by Juza
Post by Willie
I treat the Druidic language much as I do the magic language. You
have to KNOW
how to read and speak it by getting training by a druid. This way
the only way to
know it is to either be a druid, or have one teach it. And if one
teaches a non-druid
the language, it spells out BIG trouble to him/her. If you were a
Druid, then lost that
class, I would rule that you would be able to still speak it.
Writing it would follow
the same rules.
Ok. I know that, but you didn't answer my question. Can someone with
comprehend language casted on him understand druidic?
If he touches a druid, sure.
I don't think that's how the spell works...

- Ron ^*^
Mad Hamish
2006-07-13 14:48:24 UTC
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Post by Werebat
Post by Mark Blunden
Post by Juza
Post by Willie
I treat the Druidic language much as I do the magic language. You
have to KNOW
how to read and speak it by getting training by a druid. This way
the only way to
know it is to either be a druid, or have one teach it. And if one
teaches a non-druid
the language, it spells out BIG trouble to him/her. If you were a
Druid, then lost that
class, I would rule that you would be able to still speak it.
Writing it would follow
the same rules.
Ok. I know that, but you didn't answer my question. Can someone with
comprehend language casted on him understand druidic?
If he touches a druid, sure.
I don't think that's how the spell works...
"You can understand the spoken words of creatures or read otherwise
incomprehensible written messages. In either case, you must touch the
creature or the writing."
--
"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001

Mad Hamish
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Werebat
2006-07-13 16:37:46 UTC
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Post by Mad Hamish
Post by Werebat
Post by Mark Blunden
Post by Juza
Post by Willie
I treat the Druidic language much as I do the magic language. You
have to KNOW
how to read and speak it by getting training by a druid. This way
the only way to
know it is to either be a druid, or have one teach it. And if one
teaches a non-druid
the language, it spells out BIG trouble to him/her. If you were a
Druid, then lost that
class, I would rule that you would be able to still speak it.
Writing it would follow
the same rules.
Ok. I know that, but you didn't answer my question. Can someone with
comprehend language casted on him understand druidic?
If he touches a druid, sure.
I don't think that's how the spell works...
"You can understand the spoken words of creatures or read otherwise
incomprehensible written messages. In either case, you must touch the
creature or the writing."
Sorry -- I was thinking of written Druidic. You don't need to touch a
druid in order to read Druidic writing; on second look, that doesn't
seem to be what he meant to imply.

- Ron ^*^
Anivair
2006-07-13 19:20:51 UTC
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Post by Mad Hamish
Post by Werebat
I don't think that's how the spell works...
"You can understand the spoken words of creatures or read otherwise
incomprehensible written messages. In either case, you must touch the
creature or the writing."
Woah. that just blew my mind. Has that always been there?

Is the implecation that you must be touching a creature to understand
them? Or that you must touch a creature while you cast teh spell and
for hte duration you can understand their language? That makes no
sense.
Mark Blunden
2006-07-13 20:47:13 UTC
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Post by Anivair
Post by Mad Hamish
Post by Werebat
I don't think that's how the spell works...
"You can understand the spoken words of creatures or read otherwise
incomprehensible written messages. In either case, you must touch the
creature or the writing."
Woah. that just blew my mind. Has that always been there?
Is the implecation that you must be touching a creature to understand
them? Or that you must touch a creature while you cast teh spell and
for hte duration you can understand their language? That makes no
sense.
The way I've always interpreted it is that you must deliberately touch them,
once, and then you comprehend their languages for the duration of the spell.
--
Mark.
Mad Hamish
2006-07-16 02:38:36 UTC
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Post by Anivair
Post by Mad Hamish
Post by Werebat
I don't think that's how the spell works...
"You can understand the spoken words of creatures or read otherwise
incomprehensible written messages. In either case, you must touch the
creature or the writing."
Woah. that just blew my mind. Has that always been there?
It's been there since 3.0, I'm not sure if it was in 1st or 2nd ed (I
don't recall it but back when I played them I'm not sure I'd have even
considered Comprehend Languages or Tongues)
Post by Anivair
Is the implecation that you must be touching a creature to understand
them? Or that you must touch a creature while you cast teh spell and
for hte duration you can understand their language? That makes no
sense.
--
"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001

Mad Hamish
Hamish Laws
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Ken Andrews
2006-07-16 05:26:01 UTC
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 12:38:36 +1000, Mad Hamish
Post by Mad Hamish
Post by Anivair
Post by Mad Hamish
Post by Werebat
I don't think that's how the spell works...
"You can understand the spoken words of creatures or read otherwise
incomprehensible written messages. In either case, you must touch the
creature or the writing."
Woah. that just blew my mind. Has that always been there?
It's been there since 3.0, I'm not sure if it was in 1st or 2nd ed (I
don't recall it but back when I played them I'm not sure I'd have even
considered Comprehend Languages or Tongues)
AD&D PHB, 1st Ed:

When this spell is cast, the magic-user is able to read an otherwise
incomprehensible written message such as a treasure map (but not a
magical writing, other than to know it is "magic") or understand the
language of a speaking creature. In either case, the magic-user must
touch the object to be read or the creature to be understood, and the
spell does not enable the spell caster to write or speak the language.
The material components of this spell are a pinch of soot and a few
grains of salt. The reverse, Confuse Languages, prevents
comprehension or cancels a Comprehend Languages spell.
Post by Mad Hamish
Post by Anivair
Is the implecation that you must be touching a creature to understand
them? Or that you must touch a creature while you cast teh spell and
for hte duration you can understand their language? That makes no
sense.
We've always ruled that it only works during contact. So, you cast it
and touch someone and then you can understand what they're saying.
Let go of them, touch someone else, understand that person. It also
makes no sense that someone can point at something and have it blow up
in a ball of fire. But, that's magic for you.
Woof
2006-07-16 06:17:12 UTC
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From 2nd Edition PHB:

...When this spell is cast, the wizard is able to understand the spoken
words of a creature or read an otherwise incomprehensible written message
(such as writing in another language). In either case, the wizard must touch
the creature or the writing. ...

Hope that helps.
Post by Mad Hamish
Post by Anivair
Post by Mad Hamish
Post by Werebat
I don't think that's how the spell works...
"You can understand the spoken words of creatures or read otherwise
incomprehensible written messages. In either case, you must touch the
creature or the writing."
Woah. that just blew my mind. Has that always been there?
It's been there since 3.0, I'm not sure if it was in 1st or 2nd ed (I
don't recall it but back when I played them I'm not sure I'd have even
considered Comprehend Languages or Tongues)
Post by Anivair
Is the implecation that you must be touching a creature to understand
them? Or that you must touch a creature while you cast teh spell and
for hte duration you can understand their language? That makes no
sense.
--
"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001
Mad Hamish
Hamish Laws
Juza
2006-07-14 06:48:39 UTC
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Post by Mad Hamish
"You can understand the spoken words of creatures or read otherwise
incomprehensible written messages. In either case, you must touch the
creature or the writing."
Druidic is said to have its own alphabet. So is it not to consider as a
secret code? In this case the spell shouldn't be able to make it
comprehensible, does it (... It does not decipher codes...)?

Ciao
Juza
Mark Blunden
2006-07-14 07:57:38 UTC
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Post by Juza
Post by Mad Hamish
"You can understand the spoken words of creatures or read otherwise
incomprehensible written messages. In either case, you must touch the
creature or the writing."
Druidic is said to have its own alphabet. So is it not to consider as
a secret code? In this case the spell shouldn't be able to make it
comprehensible, does it (... It does not decipher codes...)?
Lots of languages have their own alphabet. Doesn't stop Comprehend Languages
from deciphering them.
--
Mark.
Some Guy
2006-07-17 00:29:32 UTC
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Post by Willie
Post by Juza
Hi to all,
I just wanted to know if with a comprehend language someone can understand
druidic.
Can druidic be said to be as a secret code (it is said to have a own
alphabet)?
I treat the Druidic language much as I do the magic language. You have to
KNOW
how to read and speak it by getting training by a druid. This way the only
way to
know it is to either be a druid, or have one teach it. And if one teaches a
non-druid
the language, it spells out BIG trouble to him/her. If you were a Druid,
then lost that
class, I would rule that you would be able to still speak it. Writing it
would follow
the same rules.
Indeed. Language Robin Hoods are often targets of revenge by the Great
Death Druid, who exists to rectify such transgressions.

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